Homefire’s Bed and Breakfast is now back in family mode.  The towels are washed, the tables and chairs are back in place, and life goes on.  But our lives will never be quite the same.  It was a marvelous, inspiring weekend, and we want to thank all of you who came and shared it with us. 


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I'm a wonderer. I spend a lot of time mulling, pondering, and cogitating. This is just a place to park some of those thoughts.
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  1. fwren says:

    We are so sad we couldn’t be there too ~ but we are so happy that it all turned out wonderful for you!  :love:

  2. ShineOn1983 says:

    Please email me and tell me what it was like. Preachers, company, ect.. I’ve been wanting to know about your weekend:)

  3. fwren says:

    Okay, who’s singin’?  Its one of my favorites!

  4. homefire says:

    To be absolutely truthful, I don’t know who it is.  I just searched for an mp3 of this song.  It’s been on my mind, since the kids all huddled and sang it for all they were worth during the goodbyes Sunday night.  It was so beautiful–about 30 young people singing together–the hands stretched, the harmony rang, and the love flowed.  I’m still basking in the glow.  :love:

  5. I see by your title (Mary among Marthas) that my post would have resonated with you. Thanks so much for stopping by!

  6. Confanity says:

    RYC “Ah, but God loves you, Confanity, and he’s calling you to him right now. Maybe you should talk to him about it?”What part of me being a rationalistic, humanistic Jew makes you think I don’t already have a relationship with God? And you wonder why people call Christians arrogant… you’re the one who can’t have a relationship with God without turning off your ability to think first. I might add, too, that my God doesn’t condemn righteous people to hell.

  7. homefire says:

    Humanism is a search for truth through human means, and there is no place in it for faith.  (Check the Wiki definition.)  Without faith, there is no relationship with God.
    Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
    My God doesn’t condemn the righteous either, only those who think they are righteous without him.  Because no is righteous without God’s intervention. 
    Psalm 14:3  There is none that doeth good, no, not one.

  8. Confanity says:

    RYC – “What’s amusing is that you think *I* am arrogant! Humanism is a search for truth through human means, so it does not include faith. Without faith, there is no relationship with God.”-I don’t think you’re arrogant; I know you are, since despite your repeated arguments that human understanding is limited and faulty, still you refuse to admit that the position to which you cling so desperately may not also be limited and flawed.Finally, despite apparently having finally done some reading (according to your Wikipedia reference), you still might as well have just said YEY I AM YET ANOTHER CHRISTIAN WHO HAS ABSOLUTELY NO UNDERSTANDING OF HUMANISM. It’s not about rejecting God; it’s about working with what you have in this world.As for your ridiculous claim that there is no righeousness without God and that all human beings are essentially worthless: why would you worship a creator who made you worthless on purpose? I believe in a God who made us “in His image,” not “in the image of worthlessness.”Finally, regarding your Psalms quote: it’s just like a Christian to misquote something out of context and get the meaning exactly backwards. Psalms 14:3-4 says”All have turned bad, altogether foul; there is none who does good, not even one. Are they so witless, all those evildoers, who devour my people as they devour food and do not invoke the Lord?”In other words, the Psalm was by no means a categorical statement by God about humanity. Remember that the Psalm is attributed to David; in other words, the line you misquoted was a specific statement by David about God’s feelings about the other tribes who were attacking Israel. Since Christian proselytizers attempt to “devour” Jews (convert them) and since all Christians fail to invoke the Lord (since Christianity is arrogant worship of a human being, just the same as Egyptian Pharaoh-worship and Roman Mithraic emperor-worship), Psalm 14 is actually a scathing indictment of your Christian proselytizers. There is not a single good person among them.

  9. Confanity says:

    RYC: “Sheesh~! You are SO off the wall sometimes. Where is it written that Jesus never used metaphors? You really stretched for this one. (that’s “stretched” figuratively, since I don’t know that you have literally stretched, of course)”-Oh! You’re so zany!Seriously. Are you saying that Jesus can use metaphors but God can’t? I don’t like hypocrisy, lady.Just in case you’ll cling to your hypocrisy, though, here’s yet another example from Tanakh: God repeatedly says things like “I will make David’s horn spring forth like that of the wild ox.” This is almost universally translated into English as some variation on the theme of “I will increase his strength like that of a wild ox.” Because, you know, it would be silly for God to actually make horns spring from David’s head, and they’d be a lot less effective than strength in a fight anyway.So. When are you going to admit that God uses metaphors, and that everything makes more sense (without needing to abandon religion and for some reason become evil, as you weirdly seem to believe all non-Christians are) when you read parts of the Torah metaphorically instead of literally? I’m getting really tired of my repeating myself and you, each time, sticking your fingers in your ears and pretending the words never existed.”And by the way, I am reading a great book called Creation: Facts of Life by Gary Parker, who is a college professor.”-Gary Parker is a college professor at Clearwater Christian College, which isn’t exactly high credentials in my estimation. It’s also worth pointing out that he has an “Ed.D” (educational doctorate), thus allowing him to call himself “Dr. Gary Parker,” but he apparently never learned enough science to get a PhD. You’ll find plenty of PhDs, by the way, at universities like Harvard and Yale and Cornell and Rice and so on and so forth, who believe that the evidence for evolution is solid. I’ll take their word over Dr. no-PhD teaches-fringe-Christianity-nonsense-to-Christians Parker any day of the week. And twice on Sundays.I did some reading on our friend Parker, and it seems that he’s written some books whose main characteristics are that they are 1. misleading, 2. full of fabrications (read as: lies), 3. prone to framing issues falsely, and 4. consistently unable to do anything more than ignore valid scientific evidence in favor of evolution. That’s right, he can’t disprove evolution, so he ignores the evidence instead. Brilliant. No wonder he couldn’t get a real science doctorate.Here’s a quote on Parker from this review: “…often he seems unaware of even what fellow creationists are saying about human evolution, let alone real scientists. Parker’s book is an example of the worst of creationist literature, a shoddy collection of recycled misinformation.” Also, “Parker’s book consists of an enormous amount of misdirection, and evasion of most of the best evidence for human evolution.”In other words, if you think his books are great, it’s just further evidence that you’re not even remotely qualified to teach your kids biology. 8^( I beg you, please, reconsider now! Before you stunt their minds for life! :nono:

  10. Confanity says:

    You want some REAL educational reading on the subject?Here.Here.Here.Here.And here.From that last one (emphases mine):’This was part of an E-mail message I received from Bruce Waldron on April 3, 2001. He is a Christian, but he is not a fundamentalist Christian. He and I did not see eye to eye on numerous issues, but he was in full agreement that “scientific creationism” is a terrible idea.He expressed this sentiment as follows (reproduced with his permission):’ “Please allow this very abridged response to the Creationists. The story found in Genesis Chapter 1 through to Chapter 2, verse 4a, is a temple liturgy, emanating out of about the sixth century BC judging by the syntax and vocabulary. It has the repetitive nature of a liturgy with the responsive phrases and rhythm appropriate. The meaning of it was never intended as a historical text book but is a deeply religious statement, full of significance and nuances, mostly missed by those who only see it as a textbook for the creation of material stuff. People locked up in concrete thinking actually misuse the scriptures terribly. The second creation story which starts halfway through Genesis 2:4 (the verse divisions and punctuations were added much, much later according to tradition) is a much older story, predating written records. It is a beautiful story, full of meaning and faith, sadly neglected in this senseless argument over where the garden was and how old the people lived. I think the writers would have wept had they known how literally some people would interpret it. The matter is again one of culture. Creationists read the scriptures as though they were written with the sort of questions in mind that a post industrial culture would ask. In so doing, they misrepresent everything that the ancient writers were striving for. It seems to me that creationist thinking often does not seem to be aware that it has been completely captured by the rationalist mindset of 20th Century thinking which it so despises and suspects and in so doing has deserted the mindset of the people who, inspired by God, wrote those beautiful ancient words.”Let me repeat that. “Creationist thinking… has deserted the mindset of the people who, inspired by God, wrote those beautiful ancient words.” This may be the core of my argument against your interpretations, in a nutshell. Do I seem angry? You have stolen our texts and you are abusing them. Stop.

  11. homefire says:

    Yep, God uses metaphors.  I never said he didn’t.  I said he doesn’t LIE.  I also didn’t say that human beings are worthless–quite the contrary;  Christ died for us!  I realize you think that’s foolishness (1 Cor 1:23) but it proves that we are worth SO much more than you can imagine!  Yes, you and I are contrary and contentious, but he loves us anyway–agape love (which I believe is where this conversation started.)
    And for all the times you’ve blasted me for incomplete facts, you certainly didn’t check out Dr. Parker very carefully.  He has a doctorate in Biology and Paleontology, and though he did teach at a Christian college for a time, that’s not where he began his career.  He wasn’t even a Christian when he began teaching, having taken evolution as his religion, and nearly lost his job once because his forcefulness in teaching the evolutionary message had students in tears.  He considered it his mission to rid students of “superstitions” such as Christianity.  I thought you might be able to relate to this guy, actually.  Maybe you should actually read what he has to say, rather than nasty reviews about him?

  12. Oh dear… Just a little aside–Confanity, I do not know you, but I am personally acquainted with Homefire. I suggest you do not label someone with hypocrisy until you know their character. I know her, and I can testify before God that she is no hypocrite. (And for such non-hypocrisy has endured substantial “persecution.”)  :whocares:

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