Hebrew for the phrase is “Hayom.” This means “today.”
Now that IS interesting. Not being a Hebrew scholar, I didn’t know that. The word obviously has a broad range of meaning, though, judging by the great variety of places it is used. I do wonder if there is some particular reason that here it was translated “the day” rather than “this day,” as it is in some other places. Perhaps because later on in the manuscript it becomes clear which was meant?
H: But you said that everything had evolved upward.
C: -I hope I said nothing of the sort,
But you did. In your comment on my Tues, Aug 29 post, you quoted this: (If you’re aware of any instances where something evolved upward Confanity, please share them.) and answered with: -How about everything that exists?
You’re contradicting yourself.
God made the expanse, and it separate the water which was below the expanse from the water which was above the expanse. And it was so. God called the expanse Sky.
This says pretty clearly that above the sky, there should be an expanse of water identical to that below the sky… Any astronaut can tell you that above the sky is hard vacuum.
Identical? Really? Where is that word? It says they’re both water, that’s all I’m seeing. I think it’s interesting that the word translated “above” also carries the meaning from, out of, or among. That would fit nicely with the upper waters being vapor in clouds.
ask some organic chemists, experts in their field and far better able to judge than you or I…If chemistry says that such a thing is possible [for a self-replicating molecule to form from inorganic material]
And why would their opinion carry any more weight than anyone else’s? They can show me possibility, but they aren’t any more of an authority on whether it DID happen than anyone else. They weren’t there!
As Sherlock Holmes said (I paraphrase), once you have eliminated the impossible, then what remains, no matter how improbable, must be true.
And how have you eliminated the impossible? The leap from one life form to another, which no one observed, is no more provable than my belief that everything was created. I know you think it probable, but the fact is that while there should be numerous transitional fossils in the fossil record, especially considering the many millions of years we’re talking about, all we actually have are a handful of disputable examples. There is absolutely nothing that shows all the transitional forms that should be there. The gaps are huge!
In other words, by this quote, you choose to believe the improbable because you have rejected the only other alternative.
In a way, therefore, creationism is direct disobedience against God.
(shaking my head) I think you once accused me of twisted thinking. The convoluted route you took to arrive at this is simply amazing. Sir, if you honestly believe this statement, you have created your own god.
I’ve started responding to several other topics, but can’t get too enthused about finishing them. I think I’m tired of being mocked and tired of talking in circles.
I have chosen to believe the New Testament, which means that Jesus Christ of Nazareth is my Messiah and my Lord. In light of the New Testament, everything I have said makes sense, but since you don’t accept that, it won’t make sense to you. I don’t know how familiar you are with NT, but this is a quick overview of creation from John 1:1-4
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Yahweh, the One who has life in Himself, is the source of ALL life, and he created through his living WORD, Jesus Christ. That’s my worldview.
You and I view the world from opposite grandstands. I really can’t see your point of view, nor can you see mine, unless we actually go to the other side of the field and look at it from there. Your position allows you to only see what is within your field of vision, and the same goes for me. Unless one of us is willing to move to the other’s position, we will continue to see different things. The only way to have a productive discussion of the various things that we see is to graciously describe our own view and charitably consider the alternate one. Obviously, they will never look the same. I have been trying to understand why you have chosen your particular viewing position, and I think I begin to comprehend.
To deny that one has chosen a viewing position and claim omniscience is futile. Faith is the evidence of things that can’t be seen. Both views have plenty of those unseen things. The difference is where we have chosen to put our faith.
I am weary and must go. Too many short nights, I believe. It’s been a great weekend, but exhausting, and my children are waiting to be educated.
Blessings to all~